tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-58239230483072298552024-02-02T09:30:56.968-08:00Orthodox PreteristI'll be posting some of my notes on eschatology in this blog. I find the orthodox preterist view fascinating. I'm still exploring the amillennial and postmillennial positions. I reject hyper-preterism.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-71023248582175569952013-01-02T01:17:00.000-08:002013-01-02T01:17:00.219-08:00Revelation: A Mentor Expository CommentaryA <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Revelation-Mentor-Expository-Commentary/dp/184550688X">new preterist commentary</a> on the Book of Revelation by Douglas F. Kelly.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-17914735757244957652012-12-10T23:55:00.000-08:002012-12-10T23:55:00.336-08:00Why I Left Full Preterism<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Samuel Frost was one of the biggest apologists for hyper-preterism. However, he has since changed his mind and converted to orthodox preterism. Here's his <a href="http://www.americanvision.com/why-i-left-full-preterism-paperback">new book</a> on his conversion.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-89337932071419112052012-11-29T23:46:00.002-08:002012-11-29T23:49:14.932-08:00Revelation and The First Century<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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A <a href="http://www.americanvision.com/revelation-and-the-first-century">new book</a> (published by American Vision) by Francis Gumerlock.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-11527617319137256302012-11-29T23:39:00.003-08:002012-11-29T23:48:47.065-08:00We Shall All Be Changed: A Critique of Full Preterism<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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A <a href="http://www.americanvision.com/we-shall-all-be-changed-a-critique-of-full-preterism">new book</a> (published by American Vision) by Joel McDurmon. There has been controversy on Gary DeMar and American Vision's view on hyper-preterism. Well, at least we know now they are against it.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-28112366412864543682012-09-17T01:19:00.000-07:002012-09-24T00:34:54.929-07:00Raptureless by Jonathan Welton<iframe width="460" height="259" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0bDJfW1CxNE?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
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Welton holds to the preterist view. You can buy his book <i>Raptureless: An Optimistic Guide to the End of the World</i> <a href="http://www.jonwelton.com/apps/store/default.asp?view=profile&itemid=39324">here</a> (website <a href="http://raptureless.com">here</a>).orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-37632699796960216782012-07-18T22:53:00.000-07:002012-09-17T01:27:58.507-07:00Novels based on preterism<iframe width="460" height="259" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/h1ZFdXaprd0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><br />Hank Hanegraaff's and Sigmund Brouwer's trilogy is now available:<br />
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<a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-Disciple-Sigmund-Brouwer/dp/1414364970/">The Last Disciple</a><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-Sacrifice-Disciple/dp/1414364989">The Last Sacrifice</a><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-Temple-Disciple/dp/0842384464">The Last Temple</a><br />
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<em>The Last Disciple</em> and <em>The Last Sacrifice</em> first came out years ago without <em>The Last Temple</em>. Now, all three books are available.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-72302731460299312022012-04-19T23:53:00.003-07:002012-04-19T23:59:06.307-07:00A. J. PlattAuthor <a href="http://www.ajplatt.com/">AJ Platt</a> has some books on preterism and postmillennialism:<div><br /></div><div><a href="http://www.amazon.com/You-Armageddon-Kingdom-God-Postmillennial/dp/1460941284/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1306175555&sr=8-1">You, Armageddon and the Kingdom of God: A Brief Introduction to Postmillennial Eschatology</a></div><div><a href="http://www.amazon.com/He-Reigns-Introduction-Postmillennial-Optimism/dp/1453851488/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1285970621&sr=1-8">He Reigns: A Brief Introduction to Postmillennial Optimism</a></div><div><br /></div><div>And his audio lectures on Revelation:</div><div><br /></div><div><a href="http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?seriesOnly=true&currSection=sermonstopic&sourceid=trinityfellowship&keyword=Book+of+Revelation+Made+Easy&keyworddesc=Book+of+Revelation+Made+Easy">Book of Revelation Made Easy</a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-54460642108594173382012-03-20T18:27:00.004-07:002012-03-20T18:42:54.575-07:00Greg Bahnsen vs David Chilton<span style="font-style: normal; "><span style="font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; ">I thought this piece of information was interesting. It appears Greg Bahnsen (RIP) was </span><i><b>against</b></i> what's easily the most popular known contemporary commentary on the book of Revelation from an orthodox preterist point of view, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Days-Vengeance-Exposition-Book-Revelation/dp/0930462092" style="font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; ">The Days of Vengeance</a>. Bear in mind, Chilton was an orthodox preterist when he wrote <i>Days of Vengeance</i> (he died a hyper-preterist later in life). But </span><i>still</i> Greg Bahnsen, after reading the book, could not recommend it. <a href="http://www.cmfnow.com/articles/pb075.htm" style="font-style: normal; ">Here's his critique</a>. <div style="font-style: normal; "><br /></div><div style="font-style: normal; ">While I admire Greg Bahnsen's contributions to the preterist camp, I, personally, would still recommend Chilton's commentary.</div>orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-52569848864791933572012-03-20T18:13:00.003-07:002012-03-20T18:15:10.961-07:00David Lowman Eschatology Lectures Back Up!David Lowman (author of the "<a href="http://low5point.wordpress.com">I was a Teenage Dispensationalist</a>" blog) has his popular 19 lectures back up. <a href="http://low5point.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/sunday-school-audio/">Check it out</a>.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-12094901558943592752012-01-27T02:41:00.000-08:002012-01-27T02:47:27.020-08:00With God On Our Side (Documentary)<a href="http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21075913NQ9zShq7">Part 1</a><br /><a href="http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21076038pzxy3zc2">Part 2</a><br /><a href="http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21076113rgSMpP8s">Part 3</a><br /><a href="http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21076247g2CqzBrh">Part 4</a><br /><a href="http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21076735GNf8pqzw">Part 5</a><br /><a href="http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21076827XktjHSfS">Part 6</a><br /><a href="http://www.veoh.com/watch/v21077040BYz8NFP8">Part 7</a>orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-21390827211119039252011-11-05T03:33:00.000-07:002011-11-05T03:38:00.260-07:00Vic Reasoner's Commentary on Revelation<a href="http://www.fwponline.cc/audio/audiodex.html">Here's</a> (at the bottom-right under "Reveling in Revelation - Vic Reasoner - June 2001 - October 2002") a 53-part lecture on the book of Revelation by Vic Reasoner (author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Fundamental-Wesleyan-Commentary-Revelation/dp/tags-on-product/0976100312">A Fundamental Wesleyan Commentary on Revelation</a>).orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-87162976570714928292011-11-04T01:22:00.002-07:002012-03-20T18:37:03.809-07:00Victorious Eschatology by Eberle and Trench<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Victorious-Eschatology-Second-Harold-Eberle/dp/1882523334">This book</a> is good but I recommend it with reservation and caution. Authors Harold R. Eberle and Martin Trench do NOT call hyper-preterism heretical! Although Eberle and Trench make it clear they do NOT agree with hyper-preterism they still cite and recommend a few of their works, like John L. Bray's, John R. Noe's, and Kurt Simmons' works. I fear this book may legitimize the hyper-preterist position. But, for what it's worth, <em>Victorious Eschatology</em> is a solid view of the partial-preterist view.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-51342357150826146562011-11-03T19:29:00.000-07:002011-11-03T19:30:20.011-07:00Whitefield MediaWhitefield Media is on <a href="http://www.sermonaudio.com/source_detail.asp?sourceid=whitefieldmedia">Sermon Audio</a>.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-20053817556637045562011-08-12T19:06:00.000-07:002011-08-12T19:09:13.837-07:00Is Drudge Report dispensationalist friendly?At drudgereport.com, they have <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.6e1e2ad90e2d94b12b6258b7e9c5b33d.611&show_article=1">this article</a> under the quoted-link: "MARK OF THE BEAST? Electronic tattoo has medical, gaming, spy uses..."
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<br />It looks like dispies are going to go nutts over this.
<br />orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-48644461657030195462011-07-20T00:17:00.000-07:002011-07-20T00:19:38.996-07:00Gregory A. Boyd on Preterism<blockquote>"For my part, I find the arguments for the preterist reading of Revelation quite compelling, though I also believe there are paradigmatic spiritual truths found throughout the book, as the idealist camp argues."<br /><br />- <a href="http://www.gregboyd.org/qa/bible/what-is-the-right-way-to-interpret-revelation/">Greg Boyd</a><br /></blockquote><br />Boyd gives a lecture on the Olivet Discourse <a href="http://youtu.be/4-U7UFKgTsw">here</a>.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-21532395878123066692011-07-12T23:41:00.000-07:002011-07-12T23:43:34.097-07:00Debate on the Date of the Book of RevelationMark Hitchcock vs Hank Hanegraaff - <a href="http://vimeo.com/25830703">part 1</a>, <a href="http://vimeo.com/25836659">part 2</a>, <a href="http://vimeo.com/25841874">part 3</a>.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-80409196549865367512011-05-20T15:53:00.000-07:002011-05-20T15:54:14.547-07:00For you, Harold CampingThe staff at College Humor <a href="http://www.collegehumor.com/video/5775909/end-of-the-world-parody">get it right</a>.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-79960438911921028762011-05-14T14:14:00.000-07:002011-05-14T14:14:00.340-07:00C. Peter Wagner is a Preterist?I don't know too many charismatics who are preterists, but it appears that C. Peter Wagner is one of them:<br /><br /><br /><blockquote>Victorious eschatology makes a convincing argument that the biblical prophecies concerning the "last days" or the "end times" were literally fulfilled at the time of the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. The end times marked the ending of the old covenant and the beginning of the new covenant. Jesus literally will return to the earth in the future (see Matthew 24:36-25:46), but none of the signs of Matthew 24:4-34 are expected to precede His return, because they have already occurred. This is known by professional theologians as the Partial Preterist view of eschatology, and it is the view with which I personally identify.<br /><br />- C. Peter Wagner, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dominion-Kingdom-Action-Change-World/dp/0800794354#_">Dominion!: How Kingdom Action Can Change the World</a>, p. 61-62 (paranthesis his) </blockquote>orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-74444705295569389872011-05-13T22:39:00.000-07:002011-05-13T22:41:51.301-07:00Ed BuddEd Budd is an up and coming speaker for preterism. Check out his links:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.edbudd.net/">edbudd.net</a><br /><a href="http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?SpeakerOnly=true&currSection=sermonsspeaker&Keyword=Ed^Budd">Sermon Audio Link</a>orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-84951949386174338052011-05-05T02:25:00.001-07:002011-05-05T02:26:28.985-07:00Youtube Channel: Eschatology247A youtube channel dedicated to the orthodox preterist view: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/eschatology247">youtube.com/eschatology247</a>.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-26843167010301434432011-04-13T13:00:00.001-07:002011-04-13T13:26:45.370-07:00A Christian and a Jew discuss DispensationalismBill Moyers does an interview with a Christian (Timothy Weber, author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Road-Armageddon-Evangelicals-Became-Israels/dp/0801031427">On the Road to Armageddon</a>) and Jew (Michael Lerner) about <a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/watch3.html">the dangers of dispensationalism</a>.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-73736015898170217162011-03-30T01:42:00.000-07:002011-03-30T01:45:52.716-07:00Olivet Discourse Dramatized<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="460" height="249" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6pvvY1D3u9Q?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-80088911316703082472010-11-28T20:41:00.001-08:002010-11-28T20:43:02.853-08:00John Otis on PreterismOtis is an orthodox preterist who holds to the postmillennial position. You can find his video lectures <a href="http://www.triumphantpublications.com/videos.html">here</a>.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-74545231931898368062010-11-20T01:13:00.000-08:002010-11-20T01:13:00.441-08:00David Lowman Audio Lectureon eschatology <a href="http://low5point.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/audio-downloads-through-rapidshare">here</a>.orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823923048307229855.post-22962181988936802272010-11-05T23:58:00.000-07:002010-11-06T00:04:46.456-07:00The AntichristWho is the antichrist? Will he be a future ruler on the world as the dispensationalists claim? Is the antichrist the same person as the beast in Revelation 13? This video puts the antichrist in proper perspective:<br /><br /><object width="420" height="255"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ejhpzNpYgA4?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ejhpzNpYgA4?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="420" height="255"></embed></object>orthodoxpreteristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13475237188326693032noreply@blogger.com